tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7849367040589270673.post7070942051303641883..comments2024-03-21T22:50:39.997-07:00Comments on Obsessed with Oracle PL/SQL: Latest UI for Oracle Dev GymSteven Feuersteinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18405765731886460622noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7849367040589270673.post-64818546668057887122017-04-04T03:08:59.978-07:002017-04-04T03:08:59.978-07:00I am completely unable to reproduce this. Perhaps ...I am completely unable to reproduce this. Perhaps next time you are taking a quiz, you could record a short video or gif showing the behavior, and send it to me? steven dot feuerstein at oracle dot com.Steven Feuersteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18405765731886460622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7849367040589270673.post-72409691417849567292017-04-04T01:03:35.395-07:002017-04-04T01:03:35.395-07:00Yesterday I checked one answer and unchecked it la...Yesterday I checked one answer and unchecked it later. Seems that this bypasses the check.Marcushttp://matzberger.de/oraclenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7849367040589270673.post-5682367703357243302017-04-03T15:38:27.971-07:002017-04-03T15:38:27.971-07:00Marcus, concerning: "Perhaps you can add a ch...Marcus, concerning: "Perhaps you can add a check that at least one answer is marked correct OR "No choice is correct" is chosen." I thought we DID do that. The submit answer button is disabled until something is checked. What am I missing?<br /><br />In terms of new page, I will check my JS pro on that one. :-)Steven Feuersteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18405765731886460622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7849367040589270673.post-42343071764876987182017-04-03T05:12:25.782-07:002017-04-03T05:12:25.782-07:00Perhaps you can add a check that at least one answ...Perhaps you can add a check that at least one answer is marked correct OR "No choice is correct" is chosen.<br /><br />And I would prefer to open each quiz in a new page when I'm at Tournaments. You can't do this because it's not a real link but a javascript:apex.submitMarcushttp://matzberger.de/oraclenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7849367040589270673.post-30008824253356712032017-03-16T13:14:58.532-07:002017-03-16T13:14:58.532-07:00Thanks for your usual in depth, well thought out r...Thanks for your usual in depth, well thought out response, Iudith.<br /><br />One quick response to:<br /><br />"I think that, just like today, seeing the whole information on a single page is more convenient, maybe in addition to navigating through the buttons to the different parts."<br /><br />Easy enough. You will soon see "Show All" as the first tab - that's the full page view.<br /><br />I will go over your other ideas and see how to best proceed. Thanks!<br />Steven Feuersteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18405765731886460622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7849367040589270673.post-88957429170689542432017-03-10T16:29:15.778-08:002017-03-10T16:29:15.778-08:00Hello Steven,
I am using the Library page to brows...Hello Steven,<br />I am using the Library page to browse over ALL the quizzes<br />of a chosen topic, displayed by their ending date.<br />Also, I see immediately the quizzes that have new comments <br />added.<br /><br />This is very convenient and easy to use.<br /><br />I think that playing quizzes and browsing through the quizzes<br />thesaurus (yes, I am sure that it IS a thesaurus !)<br />should be two different and separate activities.<br /><br />Looking at played quizzes, even without effectively playing<br />is another very valuable way of learning.<br /><br />So, I would definitely NOT go for "hiding" the entire quiz list<br />behind a random quiz being played ...<br /><br />In summary, if you want the menu to be very "action-focused",<br />I would include entries like:<br />- Library ( for the quiz library / learning )<br />- Training ( for playing random quizzes )<br />- Competing ( for playing the competitions )<br />- Ranking ( for the different ranking reports )<br /><br />These are maybe the chronological phases that a new visitor<br />of the site will follow.<br /><br />Regarding the quiz page itself:<br /><br />I just tried to play one or two quizzes and while playing <br />I had a feeling of "losing context".<br />Yes, it is true that we can open the question in a separate window, which is also available today, but probably rarely used.<br />With the new interface, this will be A MUST, otherwise<br />you should scroll too far away upwards for regaining the context,<br />because of the "too much white space" spread between the choices.<br /><br />Ideally, while playing, I would have liked to see the quiz introduction on the left side and the choices on the right side,<br />so that to see both in parallel, all the time.<br /><br />Regarding the quiz summary page:<br /><br />Though all the information does exist, now it is mandatory <br />to press the different buttons at the top for seeing the different parts.<br />I think that, just like today, seeing the whole information on a single page is more convenient, maybe in addition to navigating through the buttons to the different parts.<br /><br />Regarding the percentages that Markus mentioned:<br /><br />Seeing those huge numbers followed by a percent sign (%)<br />did not make any sense for me, so I treated from the beginning<br />as either a bug or a feature that I will probably never use ...<br /><br />As the old wolf that I am, and after so many years of playing,<br />believe me, if you want to encourage people to take more quizzes, <br />the best incentive is the Ranking list of the different competitions...<br /><br /><br />As an overall impression, synthesized in a single word:<br /><br />The current site gives the feeling of a "site for techies",<br />while the new one gives the feeling of a "site for fun".<br /><br />Well, everyone can call me anti-modern, I am old enough for <br />that being ok with me :)<br /><br />I know that Oracle likes "red everywhere", but, <br />as a personal preference, I like our current colors more.<br /><br />Maybe there is some psychology involved, which I cannot really explain.<br /><br /><br />Thanks a lot & Best Regards,<br />Iudith<br />iudithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04905902445036068357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7849367040589270673.post-21976101622980831302017-03-10T04:20:45.862-08:002017-03-10T04:20:45.862-08:00Thanks, Marcus. We will take a look at making that...Thanks, Marcus. We will take a look at making that information more accessible.<br /><br />As for 50700% correct - we are just trying to encourage people to take more quizzes. "Wow! Great job! 50700% You are a genius!"<br /><br />Or maybe it's a bug. Yep, I think it's a bug. Thanks!Steven Feuersteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18405765731886460622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7849367040589270673.post-89345973876965012662017-03-10T04:19:44.303-08:002017-03-10T04:19:44.303-08:00Iudith, I am a little confused. On the library pag...Iudith, I am a little confused. On the library page, you certainly do see the topic. Please give me a list of the ways that you use the library page. Part of our shift in the Dev Gym is to not make it so easy for people to find quizzes they've never taken and look it over BEFORE taking it. Seems to make sense to us that you take the quiz and then you can go exploring in all of its details.Steven Feuersteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18405765731886460622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7849367040589270673.post-39964660608475519782017-03-10T04:18:30.477-08:002017-03-10T04:18:30.477-08:00Thanks, Scott. Fixed that.Thanks, Scott. Fixed that.Steven Feuersteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18405765731886460622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7849367040589270673.post-87807073529924403902017-03-10T03:11:54.764-08:002017-03-10T03:11:54.764-08:00Hello Steven,
the hardest thing was to find the r...Hello Steven,<br /><br />the hardest thing was to find the results for quizzes other than those from last week (recently closed).<br />"Gym history" might be an intuitive first step but it took a while before I found that I have to click on the circle in "Quiz Stats".<br />This reminds me of my employer when new terminals for time registrations were introduced. No explanation how they should be used: "We thought people would simple try it out" :-)<br />Later I found that your Help page has an entry that showed how to do it.<br /><br />At the "Take a Quiz" page some tiles show percentages like 10975% or 50700% in green with a check symbol. Does this mean that I have been 50700% correct :-)<br /><br />Regards<br />Marcus<br />Marcushttp://matzberger.de/oraclenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7849367040589270673.post-71838840461871044192017-03-09T23:14:31.040-08:002017-03-09T23:14:31.040-08:00Workouts gave me a privilege errorWorkouts gave me a privilege errorScott Wesleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18106937181788036683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7849367040589270673.post-10589713954477854162017-03-09T13:12:50.895-08:002017-03-09T13:12:50.895-08:00Hello Steven,
As you know, I am very conservative...Hello Steven,<br /><br />As you know, I am very conservative in what relates to user interfaces, so, my first quick question is:<br /><br />Where is the quiz Library page ?<br /><br />This is THE page that I am using most over my many years in the PL/SQL Challenge, and I guess that this is probably the same for many players.<br /><br />I think that this page, with all its current functionality, should remain by all means as a separate entry on the home page menu.<br /><br />Taking quizzes by a chosen (or known) topic is nice for those who prepare for taking exams, but not exactly for those who want to train for the PL/SQL Challenge competitions themselves, where NOT knowing the topic before taking a quiz is the whole point.<br /><br />Thanks a lot & Best Regards,<br />Iudith<br />iudithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04905902445036068357noreply@blogger.com